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Good perspective... Work from home India

2009-11-04T21:43:53.458+05:30

Good perspective...

Work from home India

Great post.. india is rich in terms of its culture...

2009-11-04T21:42:11.109+05:30

Great post.. india is rich in terms of its culture and heritage.. Its amazing to see how distinct South India is from North India...

Work from home India

Grow up Indians.Concentrate on growth and peace. S...

2009-09-09T22:16:35.575+05:30

Grow up Indians.Concentrate on growth and peace. Stop communal fights, stop showing our proud past if it takes people's lives. Not everyone is as sharp and intelligent to understand the past and present, what the foolish crowd knows is the label(Muslim/Non-Muslim). Just give a break to all this and live peacefully.

Atishay maval lekhan ahe, saral saral kalun yete ...

2009-09-09T12:05:53.035+05:30

Atishay maval lekhan ahe,
saral saral kalun yete ki muslim
dharjinya manasane lekh lihila aahe.
jara etha yeun bagha..dangalichi zal pochali tar asa kahi lihinaar nahi tumhi.

faar wyawasthit lihile aahe tumhi. mi tumchyashi p...

2009-09-09T05:40:36.088+05:30

faar wyawasthit lihile aahe tumhi.
mi tumchyashi purnapane sahamat aahe.

Excellent article! Found it while searching for th...

2009-08-21T02:30:31.530+05:30

Excellent article! Found it while searching for the origin of "hak se liye pakistan, cheen ke lenge Hindustan".

SANGHA CHAYA NIYANTRANAT ASLELI EK SANGHATANA YA V...

2009-08-20T12:35:22.461+05:30

SANGHA CHAYA NIYANTRANAT ASLELI EK SANGHATANA YA VYATIRIKTA KHAI NAHI ASHI AVASTHA AHE "BHA JA PA" CHI

wah lankya!!!!!!!

2009-08-20T10:59:00.930+05:30

wah lankya!!!!!!!

Amit, This article is excellent. This should rathe...

2009-08-06T00:09:37.293+05:30

Amit,
This article is excellent. This should rather must be read by otherwise talented Ashutosh Gowarikar. Its gross Mistake of A versatile director like Ashutosh Gowarikar to portray Akbar as great king.I hope God will give him Sadbuddhi to repent for this project.
Thanks
Mahesh Kulkarni(I Hate SEZ)
Kothrud.

Great Patriotic Poem! After criticising for long t...

2009-07-30T09:42:34.438+05:30

Great Patriotic Poem!
After criticising for long time; I found full sense of real nationalism in it!
Keep it up! Post more!

shunya...baryaach diwasaani chaangali kavita vaach...

2009-06-06T21:41:18.946+05:30

shunya...baryaach diwasaani chaangali kavita vaachali!:-)

सुंदरच आहे कविता खूप दिवसांनी परत वाचायला मिळाली. ...

2009-05-19T03:55:00.000+05:30

सुंदरच आहे कविता खूप दिवसांनी परत वाचायला मिळाली. पण को-या गप्पांनी कांही होत नाही काम करून दाखवावे लागेल. अन् आपसातच एकमेकांची मत खाल्ली तर आणखी काय होईल ?

Nice article.

2009-03-30T04:55:00.000+05:30

Nice article.

I believe that the "Dravidian Movement" is one of ...

2008-05-23T07:52:00.000+05:30

I believe that the "Dravidian Movement" is one of the primary reason for the improvement of TN.

Periyar was "anti-hindi". He opposed it successfully in 1938. In 1965, he did NOT oppose it politically since he supported the then Congress govt which was headed by Kamaraj.

"Dravidian Movement" stressed on the linguistic, cultural differences between the "Dravidians" and the "Aryans" but did NOT overemphasize on "Race". Another common misconception among non-Tamils.

The anti-hindi agitation in 1938 and in 1965 and even now is essential IF the central govt imposes hindi on TN. As explained earlier, "anti-hindi" movement was reactionary to the "hindi imposition" by the north central states.

Periyar did harbour separatist thoughts and in fact supported Jinnah's two nation theory. But he is NOT just about separatism, his actions and political movements was and still is the primary reason for the upliftment of millions of backward people. To weigh a man based on negatives defined by history and to ignore his contributions is quite stunted.

I know the etymology of the word "Dravid", and agr...

2008-05-22T22:50:00.000+05:30

I know the etymology of the word "Dravid", and agree with you on that.
I am happy to see that you do not approve the "Dravidian race" argument.

Do you not think that Periyar was associated with Anti Hindi agitation? Did he he not stoke the anti Hindi/ anti "north" Indian sentiment? Did he not harbour separatist thoughts? Was there any significant ideological difference between the DK and the DMK on this issue? Did he not believe in racial difference between Tamils and rest of Indians? Did he not promote the "Dravidian race" argument?

I don't want to enumerate and stress on the details of what happened and what did not happen at that particular point of time. I was just enumerating the ideological positions various groups held.

I dont there are any serious "north south issues"....

2008-05-22T22:35:00.000+05:30

I dont there are any serious "north south issues".

They do consider the 4 states in the south to be south India, but I don't think any body considers Bengal, Maharashtra, Orissa , North eastern states or for that matter even Gujarat to be a part of the "North" category. And that is not subtle.

In fact the people of Maharahtra, Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh constitute a closely knit block,if we take the Satavahana heritage as a reference point.

If you are not a dravidian nationalist then I welcome that. But you would acknowledge the presence of hardliner dravidian nationalists whose radical views I have talked about.

///In reality, your comment on me being a north In...

2008-05-18T10:52:00.000+05:30

///In reality, your comment on me being a north Indian shows your myopic view and little understanding about the rest of India.///

In reality, it shows your lack of touch with reality. Every respectable newspaper/media/book etc consider the 4 Southern States to be "South" and anything above it to be "North" whenever they talk about North-South issues.

Of course, some do get into the subtle differences between "North" and Bengal or "North" and MH.

A failure to comprehend the basics of reality is not my problem and the branding of "Dravidian Nationalist" is quite along the expected lines from a "North Indian" :)

My interpretation of your article has nothing to d...

2008-05-18T10:49:00.000+05:30

My interpretation of your article has nothing to do with whether you are FOR or AGAINST hindi imposition BUT a simple statement of the fact that the Dravidian Parties did NOT spearhead the anti hindi agitation in 1965.

Please, do take some time to understand what I've addressed in my previous post.

As far as I know, there is nothing called "Dravidian Race". G.U. Pope (or Caldwell) came up with the term "Dravid" to represent the south indians.

The word "Dravid" is Sanskrit word to represent "Tamil"

Dra-vi-id == Ta-mi-il

The lack of appropriate syllables in Sanskrit led to the word "Dravid".

...and the lack of any specific segregation in terms of language led to the use of the word "Dravid" to represent "South".

Please read the article carefully and without any ...

2008-05-18T10:33:00.000+05:30

Please read the article carefully and without any prejudice. My views are absolutely against imposition of Hindi on the people having a different mother tongue. We ourselves in Maharshtra are fighting against the encroachment of Hindi which is fast displacing Marathi in Maharashtra's cities.
I have written it very clearly that Hindi is not our "national" language/"Rashtrabhasha" and any Indian language be it Hindi, Marathi , Tamil , Oriya , Asamiya are National languages in their own right.
About my being a North Indian. I belong to maharashtra and personally believe that this categorization of Indian people into North/south Indians is artificial and a product of divisive movements like the dravidian movement. As for the anti Hindi part of the dravidian movement, I empathize with it to the point that it is concerned with the preservation of Tamil. If it goes beyond that and asserts a different identity for the Tamil people, separate from the rest of the Indian people, in the name of the so called dravidian race, I strongly disagree and protest it.

In reality, your comment on me being a north Indian shows your myopic view and little understanding about the rest of India. This is typical of dravidian nationalists to think of any one living above tamilnadu, andhra as a North Indian, which is a myopic and incorrect view, to say the least.

A really myopic and biased view of the anti-hindi ...

2008-05-10T12:34:00.000+05:30

A really myopic and biased view of the anti-hindi agitation in TN - but not much different from what a typical northie thinks (no offence !) ;)

From 1948-1961, almost 26% of all the officials in the central govt came from the "Madras State/TN".The next best was UP with 16% (eventhough UP had a greater population number) This was largely because of their english ability.

In 1965, if hindi was made the "national language" and if it replaced english as the north indian politicians wanted, it would give the hindi speakers a distinct advantage over the Tamils.

The Tamils wanted english as a "neutral language" to provide equal competition.

The anti-hindi agitation was largely organized and carried out by the students of TN.

DMK leaders were arrested before Jan 26, 1965. DK (Periyar's social movement) did NOT participate in the movement since Kamaraj was the CM of TN and Periyar supported Kamaraj as he was a non-brahmin (a Nadar).

DMK politicians and other local leaders did participate in the movements to different extent but it was largely taken over and organized by the students.

To put their angst in perspective....imagine if the univ exams in every state was changed from english/local language to Tamil from next year - who do you think will succeed in large numbers ???

The fight against hindi was largely economic/job-based. Politicians did use it for their own needs as a propaganda tool. Unless north indians understand this basic fact, there will always be more friction !

Nikhil, I appreciate your sentiments, and I ca...

2008-04-30T12:01:00.000+05:30

Nikhil,
I appreciate your sentiments, and I can empathize with you.But we should also not forget that we are the most selfish race in the world.We were never good enough to defend our selves against foreign aggressors ,every aspect of our civil society has been flooded with selfishness and corruption from the days of earliest people who delved on the land called Bharatvarsha.
Nice post though,
Cheers
Amit

Nikhil, Nice thought provoking post and I Comple...

2008-04-30T11:48:00.000+05:30

Nikhil,
Nice thought provoking post and I Completely agree with you.Only thing that you might want to check is whether Chengiz Kahn was a Muslim, I think he was a non-Muslim Mongol, and later his grand children adopted Islam.

Cheers
Amit

nice article man!!

2008-04-25T12:04:00.000+05:30

nice article man!!

IF you look into the history, India was never been...

2008-03-31T10:44:00.000+05:30

IF you look into the history, India was never been a country.
Those ware British who first made a united India (Mostly like its today except Pakistan, Balgladesh and Some part now belongs to China). Neither the name India or Hindustan exists before that. Even the Great Maharaja Shivaji or other powerful kings in this land never tried to name this country, cause they ware well known of the mentality of common person living on this soil.
What Chrchil said is 100% correct. This is exactly what we see today. See any news channel what you see? The channel once made 'sting operations' against Babas and Buas are running shops of Babas and Buas on tv shows. Selling 'Holy Powder' and lockets or 'Mantras'.
See how convenient is the situation in India for criminals rather than common people like you and me and clean Govt. officers like T.Chandrashekhar. You must have seen the recent drama of murder of a police ACP Rajbir Singh. Or take charges against any political leader. Who get convicted? even proven guilty the are freeman. Asking votes again to you and me. Again running the shameless game of mock democracy. We ware never been free in the history and its foolish to suppose we are free people now. Rather we living in a state of 'limited freedom' which is as per the measurements of political gundas and mafias. Its a myth that India if free country. Otherwise justice would have been made to Savarkar and Tilak who are forced to be forgotten now by a systematic political plan. Every one taking of press and freedom to print and on the name of that molesting people and misleading masses. No one knows (or pretend not knowing) name of Agarkar who was pioneer of the true 'free press'.
The truth is bitter but better to understand now. We are just slaves as we ware of British. Only kings had changed. The condition of common Indian is as it was 200 years ago. At least there was safety from gundas. Now gundas are part of politics and hence power so that shild we lost in a nutshell.
If we talked of India as country then we got to look at other countries. See US, none of the state there arranged to be keep separate as we do on the basis of language. The local state law is not as strong as us but its more in enforcement. So the law without enforcement is non-existence of law.

Let me give you another example. How strongly we love our nation honestly? I think we do not love at all. Let me further clear mey point. Taiwan has polulation less then Konkan region in Maharashtra or Pune district alone. Nokia and other cell phones support taiwan's national language a decade ago then they started suporting Hindi, forget about Marathi and other languages. They are not suported today too. MS Windows still do not have a hindi edition but they have edition of Turkey which is very very small country. Cause they refused to use english version. What did we do? So now can we say we are proud of our country? Its easy to tell others or give speech and get claps but practically we are cheating ourselves. We are not what we are pretending or trying to show. Truth always hurts.
A common myth systematically propagated is, India is IT superpower. Foreign people laugh when they hear it. A country with 0% contribution in invention and development of computer is claiming to be IT superpower. A joke of the century!!! the fact is we are IT super labors. US and other countries comes to us because we are cheap and not because we are intelligent or something. Its time to understand who are we!
Who are we? (Amhi Kon?) - Slaves. The naked truth. Digest it now otherwise you would be living in a sweet dreamland until someone kicks and tells "you are a slave". It will hard to digest at that time. So weak up and understand the fact. What we can do? - wait... till another Mangal Pandey borns.
Poet Iqbal said, "Na samzoge to mitjaoge e hindustan valo, tumhari dastan tak na hogi dastanome!"

- Anil Jagtap